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  • Carp Tales: Mike Dupree

    Carp Tales: Mike Dupree

    Don Newcombe and I were the only two people who pitched in the big leagues and were position players in Japan. Newcombe pitched with the Dodgers and played first base in Japan. I pitched for the Padres for just for a little while, and then I played outfield in Japan. That’s what I’m the proudest of, that I could do a little bit of everything.

    All through high school and during two years in college, I pitched and played right field. Right field was my favorite position. Roberto Clemente was my idol, so I had to be a right fielder. I was signed as an outfielder by the Padres in 1973. My first year in A ball, I hit .355, won the batting championship. I went to AA the next year, but I broke my hand. I went back to AA in the next year and my manager was Pat Corrales. He was a Fresno boy too. I used to throw batting practice to the whole team because I could always throw strikes and then somebody would throw to me. So, in AA that year, I was hitting the worst I had ever hit my life. I was hovering around .270, and Pat said, “You know what, Mike? I may just bring you in from right field and let you pitch a little bit.” 

    The first game he brought me in we were playing the Giants and Jack Clark was on that team. I struck out Clark three times that night and I threw 8 1/3 shutout innings. So, Corrales said, “Hey, I’m going to let you DH, but I’m going to bring you in and let you pitch a little bit more.” To make a long story short, he brought me in the last month and a half of the season. I ended up at 5-0, three saves and a 2.10 ERA in AA. Then [the next year], I went to spring training, and I threw really well, and I made a big club as a pitcher. To be truthful, I wasn’t prepared to be in the big leagues as a pitcher because my best position was outfield, or probably utility because I could play a little bit of everything. 

    After I got sent down [in 1976] from the big leagues, I threw back-to-back shutouts in Hawaii. Then they moved me to long relief and a little bit of closing, and they would DH me. Back then it was really tough to be a DH when we had position players sitting on the bench and I’m coming into pitch but also DHing. Those were fun times, but they were tough times too. For some of the position players it was difficult because I played two or three years in a row with them, and they were not getting a chance to play [because I’m playing both ways]. 

    As a two-way player, you’re always ready. Because I would usually be DHing, I’d be in the back taking swings [for most of the game]. I’d get ready mentally there. And then as far as pitching, the manager would usually let me know, “Hey, if we tie up the game or we get within a run, I may bring you in.” So, I always kind of knew where I was.  I’d often get four or five at bats a night and then maybe pitch in the 7th, 8th or 9th inning. So, you get a routine down and it didn’t bother me because I was the type of pitcher who could throw seven, eight, or nine warm-up pitches and I was ready to go.

    I even got to catch a few games. If I could have done it all over again from day one, I would have learned to hit left-handed and I would have been a catcher because I think that’s the best the road to the big leagues. You can be a good hitter, like Mike Piazza, or you can be a good defensive player. But if we look over the years, there’s not a lot of people who did both really well. I started toying with it by catching in the bullpen. Then finally they let me catch few games. As a catcher, you are involved in every play. That’s what I enjoyed. If I could do it all over again, I’d learn to hit left-handed and be a catcher, even though right field is my favorite position. 

    The Hawaii team I played on when we won the PCL championship in 1976 had Bobby Valentine in first base, Adrian Garrett, Billy Alman at short, Dave Roberts catching, Rod Gaspar at center, and Gene Richard in left. So, we had a great, great team. It got Roy Hartsfield a job with the Toronto Blue Jays the next year as a manager.

    After the 1979 season, I was pretty much decided that my baseball career was over. Over the years, I got to know Fibber Hirayama. He was a Fresno boy, and he had played for the Carp. Fibber left me a message that said, “Hey, Mike, can you give me a call?” I thought he maybe wanted me to throw batting practice to somebody. But he said, “How would you like to go to Japan?” And my first question was, “Am I going to pitch or am I going to hit?” He said, “They want you as a hitter.” 

    So, I did some homework. The Carp had won the Japan Series the year before and I was replacing Adrian Garratt. I had played with Adrian on that AAA team in Hawaii. He was a great guy. He hit 40 home runs [in 1978], but according to the Japanese, he couldn’t play defense. But they won the Japan Series!  So, when I had the opportunity, I was ecstatic. I was thinking, “Why are they wanting Mike Dupree to come to Japan, instead of Adrian Garrett who had 40 home runs and was just a really a good guy.” But I was so pleased because all I ever wanted to do from a little kid up was to play baseball. My short career in the big leagues was great, but Japan eventually ended up being the highest and the best part of my career because of the team I played on. So, I thanked Mr. Hirayama every time I saw him. I would say, “Sir, I’m so thankful that you had enough trust in me to send me to Japan.”

    I had never seen a Japanese player or a game, so I knew very little about Japanese baseball other than they were in phenomenal shape. Also that they overtrained a little bit more than they should have and that their pitchers threw a little bit more than they should have. I knew that I had to be in the best shape of my life before I went to Japan. And I was. But once I got there, it didn’t take me long to realize that they were considerably better than what was portrayed to me. That was no triple-A team.

    For spring training, I flew over about three weeks before my wife because she was giving birth to our daughter. We didn’t train in Hiroshima; we went to a small village, and it was beyond cold. I remember hitting for five minutes on a left-handed pitcher, then five minutes on a right-handed pitcher, and the games were so cold. It took me [just] one game to realize that these people were over the top into baseball. I mean, baseball was just everything. I knew baseball was big, but I [was still surprised] how hard we trained and how much we trained, how much we hit, and how much we threw and ran. It was good to have Jim Lyttle there. He had already been there three seasons. Jimmy was really great. We instantly got along really well and I’m very thankful that he was there. I was 28 years old and wasn’t quite as calm I am now. [I was] a young and cocky kid. Jimmy would just say, “Hey, we’re going to do it so just calm down. We’re going to run so just adapt.” Finally, I started adapting. Jimmy was good for me.

    Jimmy was well respected by the team, really well respected. He was a practical joker, and he was kind of notorious for hiding gloves. He was also really big on hot foots. The guys who weren’t playing sat in the first two rows of the dugout and clapped and yelled in unison. So Jimmy would get behind somebody in the front row and light him on fire! The guys would scream and our manager, Takeshi Koba, who always stood at the corner of the dugout, very upright, would look over, but say nothing.

    One of the first things I found out, and I found out the hard way, was the aggressiveness was stronger in the States, at least in 1980, by far. Early in the season, maybe a month into it, I was on second base, and there was a base hit to left field. I went through third, and the catcher was like four feet in front of home plate. I had nowhere to go. I couldn’t slide because I’d come up short [of the plate], so I dropped my shoulder, and I knocked him over. You wouldn’t believe it, both benches emptied. It was just craziness. I wasn’t looking to knock the catcher over, but I had no other alternative.

    You also didn’t take the second baseman out when you slid into second base. In the States, 

    guys like Lee May and some of those old big guys couldn’t wait to send a shortstop or second baseman into the outfield. “Oh no, Dupree-san. You don’t slide in the second base. It hurts,” I was told. We played a lot more physical in the States. Also, nobody ever tried to pick anybody off, but every time somebody would get on, the pitcher would stop and lob it over to first base. 

    In my first game, I’m going along and I’m 0 for 3. I’m having a great first game! I’m really showing off. I’m making him forget Adrian Garrett (laughs). In the top of the ninth, we were tied and they had their speediest runner on second base. They got a base hit to me in left field, and I came up throwing. I threw a strike to home, and he was out. Well, guess who led off the bottom of the ninth inning? I had been watching the pitcher the inning before, and he started off every time with an outside fastball. First pitch, I hit it out, over the right center field wall. So, I was called the sayonara kid for most of the year. That was a thrill. I was just trying to get on base, but as soon as I hit it, I thought, “This has got a chance!” I was on the magazine covers, so that was a nice way [to start in Japan], even though I was only one for four.

    I got to my locker the next day, and there was this little envelope with nothing but yen. I went over to Jimmy, and he said, “Get used to it.” That opening game made me an awful lot of money. Even if I went 0-3, but I made a good play during the game, there was always a little something. When I say a little something, the equivalent two, three, four, five hundred dollars. But the opening game, I was blown away by what was in my locker the next day because I wasn’t prepared for it. You don’t see that in the States! 

    Another thing that surprised me was that some of the managers would get very, very vocal with the umpires. Now Earl Weaver and Lou Panella used to argue and get kicked out, but some of the Japanese just took it to the nth degree. If it was a star being called out on strikes, they were right up there [in the umpire’s face]. Sadaharu Oh had a [tiny] strike zone, like about six-by-six inches (laughs). I’d see some of those pitches that Oh-san would take, and I’d think, “Oh my God!” I always used to have fun with Jimmy, about our strike zone [foreigners had notoriously large strike zones]. Jimmy used to tell me, when you get two strikes, get as close to the plate and swing. Luckily, I was a first ball or second ball hitter. I wanted to hit. I didn’t see a lot of interaction between managers. Every now and then in the States, you’ll see one of our managers yell over to the other dugout, and Panella would go after the opposing managers. Japanese managers were a little calmer to each other, but they certainly got into it with umpires.

    Now, the new stadium in Hiroshima I hear is fantastic, but the old one was fun and quaint. When I got to Hiroshima, the first thing I saw when I ran out on the field was the all-dirt infield. It was first time I played on an all-dirt infield. I remember telling Jimmy, “As much as I heard it rains over here, there’s going to be little lakes out here all the time.” I thought the outfield was really good. But I was blown away at the dirt. 

    Now if it was raining, we didn’t play. I think in 1980 we had 28 rain outs, and it was only a 130-game schedule. The season in Japan is longer than it is in the big leagues because you play every game, so you have to go back and play the rain outs. In Japan, you played in little towns, five or six games a year. They tried to play as soon as it quit raining, because the town only had one game a year. It was raining hard before one of these games, and I told Jimmy, “We’re getting the night off.” He said, “Don’t worry, it’s going to quit raining.” They landed two helicopters opposite each other on the field [to dry the diamond with their propellers]. We end up playing an hour later. They just got it ready. 

    When I played in 1980, a lot of my friends said Japanese stadiums were like AAA ballparks because they’re smaller and they’re shorter. Well, you know, I played in the Tokyo Stadium back in the day and center field was 405 or 410 and some of the lines are 315 or 330. [Since then], I think the Japanese players have gotten stronger. They’ve certainly gotten better, but the Carp team that I played with in 1980 was the best team that I ever played on. That team would have had three stars in the big leagues. 

    We played a 130-game schedule, and we ended up winning our division by 6 1/2 games. I think what made the team so good was the chemistry on the field. If you play enough games, there’s going to be friction. But they just got along well, I never saw any friction. [It helped that] we got out of the gate quickly and the pecking order [on a Japanese team] was big back then. The chemistry was built by the organization, but they just got along well. You know, I never had one Japanese player yell at me or say something underneath his breath or anything. Never.

    I really didn’t see the Japanese players off the field, just during the games and before games. Did you know that they eat a meal right before every game? That was amazing to me. We would eat hot noodles and rice and chicken. So, I didn’t have a lot of involvement with them outside of the ballpark, but in the ballpark, I was treated great. Plus, we had an interpreter everywhere that we went. Wally Yamane was our interpreter. We were always hoping he was saying what we were saying, and not saying, “Oh Dupree-san said, ‘He is going to hit thirty home runs and drive 100 RBI.’” The players, as a whole, were really good to me.

    I can just see our manager Koba standing very upright with his hat on looking down at us. Koba-san treated me nice. He usually went through my interpreter Wally, and I was never called into his office. So, he was great. He just let me and Jimmy play. He played a little bit un-Japanese baseball. We only had only one guy, our shortstop, who had good speed and might steal. But our pitching was good, and we had great hitters. So, the three-run home run, the two-run home run were really important for us. Koba-san wanted to play for longer innings as opposed to just one or two runs, so he didn’t run himself out [of innings] and he didn’t bunt a lot. [This strategy] was dictated by having some really good talent. We had guys like Koji Yamamoto (we only played 130 games and he hit 44 homers!), Sachio Kinugasa, our first baseman Jitsuo Mizutani, who had great power and won a batting championship, and Jimmy, who had a great year. We had guys who could hit the ball out, so Koba played more for the big inning as opposed to just giving an out away. We also had the best defensive outfield in Japan. Jimmy was great in right field. Koji was really conservative, but he was a good outfielder. And then I loved to come up throwing in left field, so we had by far the best defensive outfield in Japan. I mean hands down. 

    Koji Yamamoto was about 5’ 10”, 165 lbs. and he hit the ball so hard and so far. Now his strike zone wasn’t like me and Jimmy’s, but it wasn’t [as small as] Oh-san’s either. He hit the ball so hard consistently. He was the best Japanese player that I played with, by far. He was very, very quiet, but on a flyball into the gap that I would dive for and my hat went flying off, he’d be the first one to hand it to me; the first one to give me a little bit of a high five. He was as humble as a superstar possibly could be.

    Sachi Kinugasa was nothing but first class to me first, first class. For a guy 5’ 9” and 170 lbs., he could hit the ball a mile. He wasn’t the hitter Koji was then. But if I remember right that year, he hit 31 home runs and played great defense. It was close in the dugout, who had more respect Koji or Kinugasa. Sachi understood English, and he was just one of my favorites; him and Enatsu were probably my two favorite individual players.

    Me and Enatsu had a little bit of a bond. I liked him. When I played with him, he was at the tail end of his career, but he could have pitched in the States because he pitched like American power pitchers pitch. And he was fun to play with. His locker was real close to mine and he would come in, look over at me and just give me a little wink and kind of shake his head. He was another one I love playing with, but he was more at the end of his career where Koji was right in the prime. Kinugasa was a little bit at the end of his career, but that was the best team ever played on.

    At that time, stealing signs was really common in Japan. It was notorious in Hiroshima. We had a guy out in center field who had binoculars behind one-way glass so nobody could see. Koba-san would relay. “Dupre-san!” might mean curveball, or off-speed, or shuto. If they didn’t say anything, it might be a fastball. They were right on, probably 90%. When you’re right on 90%, whoa, you can be a little bit better hitter. People steal signs in America, like the Astros did, but as a whole, when guys are throwing 95 to 100 mph, even if you know what’s coming, it’s still awful hard to hit it. 

    In the Japan Series, we lost the first two games at home. We were so dominant at home, and I was thinking, “Oh my gosh!” Then we went on the road, and Jimmy got hot. We won the next two, lost one, so we were down 3-2. We came back to Hiroshima and won the last two games. Jimmy Lyttle was the MVP. I remember that I didn’t have a great series. I got two hits the final game and I made a nice diving catch in left field. That last game was back and forth. They got the lead and then in the sixth inning we took the lead, and we brought Enatsu in for the last three innings, and he won it for us. After the game, we marched around the field. The owner was first in the parade, naturally. Koba-san was second, then his main two coaches, then the other coaches, and then the players with the gaijin somewhere towards the back. We walked around the stadium three or four times, and it was just for the fans to appreciate and applaud and say thank you.

    I would have liked to have gone back another year, but I think that they wanted the Adrian Garrett type. I mean, when you win the World Series, you don’t usually break up the nucleus. I wasn’t Koji or Jim Lyttle or Kinugasa, but I brought something else to the game every night and I’d run through the wall to catch the ball for you. I tried to do everything. I did the little things, so I was disappointed I wasn’t able to go back the next year. That’s probably the biggest disappointment I take away from Japan, but that’s small compared to all the things that I came away with. I just absolutely loved everything about it. 

    I have such fond memories of Japan. Those were good times. I don’t know if you remember Rick Dempsey. During a rain out, he [stuffed something under his jersey to make] a big stomach and went to home plate, took a big fake swing, and ran around the bases. When he got halfway around third, he slid home on the tarp. So, they had just shown the clip on Japanese TV when we had a rain delay, and the players came up and said Dupree-san? They knew I would do it. They weren’t going to do it. We were on the road and they said, “Dupree-san, do running home run.” I said, I would do it [for a price] and I named a ridiculous number of yen. And they said, Okay!”  So, I got a bat and went to home plate with a helmet like I was batting. The first pitch I took, and I yelled at an imaginary umpire. “It was too high, too high!” I did this about two times, and then I swung, and ran all the way around [the bases]. I hit third base and then about a quarter down I literally slid on the tarp all the way home. The guys in the dugout were just going crazy. It was in the magazines. I don’t know if the guys had more respect for me after doing something goofy and being part of them. And you ready for this? The next day in the locker was cash in a little envelope. I wasn’t really expecting that. The sad part was that we ended up playing that night. And it was cold! I couldn’t get that jersey off fast enough afterwards. That was probably the goofiest thing that I did.

    You go to the game in America, and you enjoy it. When you see the grass and the field for the first time, you’re excited by the beauty of the ballpark. But in Japan, it’s a happening. I mean, the drums, the banners, the cheering. I have two huge banners. Because of the way I played, I had a nickname of Hustle Boy. So I have a banner that’s probably 10 by 6 feet with my face with really blonde hair and “Hustle Boy” all over it. I also have another banner that they gave me when I left. The fans waved them in the outfield right behind me, and Jimmy had his in right field. Unless you’re there [you can’t really understand]. You can tell people what it’s all about, but it’s just nine innings of cheering. They just enjoy it and it’s their lives. It was just constant yelling and screaming. It was such a happening. It was unbelievable.

    I have not been back to Japan since 1980, but we’re going with my daughter and son-in-law and grandkids this August [2025]. We’re really looking forward to going back to Hiroshima. I can’t wait for my grandkids, and even my daughter and son-in-law, to be there firsthand. I can tell people about it, but once you experience it, it’s amazing.

    You know that they’re big on signatures. Guys would knock on the hotel door but have nothing to sign. So, they would want me to sign my name with a magic marker on their suits. I would say, “No, no.” You know, I didn’t speak Japanese very good. But they would say, “Please Dupree-san.” So, I did that a half a dozen times and then a young lady came to the door, and opened up her blouse. I was praying there were no cameras down the hallway. So, I signed it real quick, said thank you and closed the door. They’re so big on autographs and stuff like that because baseball’s the only true team sport. We can’t relate to that. The average person only has baseball. Golf is so expensive you can’t afford to play. I signed a lot of 8 by 10 cards [shikishi], I can tell you that! I was very thankful to be in Japan so I signed for everyone I could. A few times a year, I still get mail from Japan and when I do, it’s usually a baseball to sign or a very elaborate letter, because baseball is so popular over there.

    Oh-san retired in 1980; that’s the year I played. So, my favorite memento is a big, beautiful color picture of me and Oh shaking hands. I had the most respect [for him]. When people say he wouldn’t hit all those home runs over here. No, he wouldn’t. But he was a great, great hitter and he would have hit many over here. He was a great hitter and just as good a person.

    I told you earlier, all I ever wanted to do was play baseball. I made it to the Big Leagues.  Was I a star? No, not at all. Japan made all the years of playing baseball worth it because with only two Americans per team, I played every game but two. I got hit with a pitch and I was supposed to be out for two weeks. I actually missed only one game. I came back two days later. I had a lot of fulfillment in winning the World Series of Japan. And it was the best team I ever played on, so I only have good memories from Japan, good memories.

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  • Carp Tales: Marty Brown

    Carp Tales: Marty Brown

    by Robert K, Fitts

    As a player I had kind of an up and down career. I played a year and a half, two years, in the big leagues, off and on, and it just didn’t look as though that [an MLB career] was going to happen. I played for Charlie Manuel, who managed the Phillies in the World Series and had played in Japan as well. He was managing Cleveland Indians AAA team, and he wanted me on his team. I ended up being kind of a utility player. I went to him and said, “Hey man, I would love to play in Japan.” I was really not the prototypical player to go to Japan because they wanted a Jessie Barfield or Lloyd Mosby, those type of guys. But Hiroshima is a smaller market, and they had an interest. When their scout came over to see me, I performed very well, and he signed me.

    When I went over, I really went into it wholeheartedly. I wanted to make a good impression. I did all their practice stuff. I was doing everything. Man, at the end of the year I was tuckered out! It was just their workload, what they did, plus we practice differently. Americans here practice full tilt, like in a game, whereas Japanese sometimes back off. They get a lot out of 70%. That’s just how they practice. You hear about some of the ridiculous things that they do, like they’ll go take 1000 swings, right? Well, there’s nobody that can do that full tilt. One of the examples on the pitching side, is Hiroki Kuroda, who pitched for me when I was managing. He just had a chip removed from his elbow and on his first day back, he said, “I want to throw a 100-pitch bullpen.” I said, “Why would you want to do that?” “Don’t worry,” he said, “I’ll throw probably 15 full tilt. I’ll back off on everything else.”  He just wanted to show the press that he was healthy. That was very important to him.

    I didn’t know a lot about Japanese baseball before I went over. I knew Mr. Baseball and I had friends who had gone over; some were successful, some weren’t. The guys who were really successful in the States were not always so successful in Japan. There was a different mindset when it came to Japanese baseball, as opposed to American baseball. I think the speed of the game in the United States is obviously faster. Players can adapt to the speed of the game, whereas in Japan they have a way of being successful that works for them and that’s what they want to do. They don’t deviate from that very much. It’s a kind of old school like mid 1940s. They still practice a lot that way.

    [When I joined the Carp in 1992] everybody was upbeat about how the team had done the year before. [They had won the Central League pennant]. I had some really good teammates, like Tomonori Maeda and Kenjiro Nomura. Akira Etoh was there. He led the league in home runs, and I hit behind him normally. 1992 was a pretty satisfying year for me individually. I had a pretty good season. There were a lot of really good players, but we had aging pitching staff. Manabu Kitabeppu was getting older. It was unfortunate that we just kind of ran out of pitching, because we had such a good nucleus of position players. We just didn’t have enough bullpen [arms] to really take care of the bigger-tier teams. The Giants were difficult, and the Swallows were really a good team at that time with Atsuya Furuta and their manager [Katsuya] Nomura-san. So, it was a really challenging season, but we played well. It was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed Hiroshima, especially the fans and the atmosphere. That was pretty cool. The following year [1993], we had some issues with injuries, myself included. That was difficult.

    I was always an aggressive player. It’s just the way I’ve always played. I think a lot of players on the Japanese teams were surprised because it was not the norm. I can remember, [early in the season] scoring from first base on a double. As I came into home, the ball was getting there just as I came to the plate and I knocked the catcher over. The ball popped out and I scored, and we ended up winning by a run. People didn’t like the fact that I knocked the catcher over. But as I got up, I tried to see if I could help because I think I broke his collar bone. Everybody could see that I was trying to help him because it was a televised game against the Giants. So, everybody saw me as being hardnosed and they just knew how I played. They were pretty accepting. I think some of the fans in Hiroshima actually enjoyed it.

    When I was a player, there was a veteran locker room in Hiroshima, and there was a rookies locker room. The rookies didn’t stay with the veterans unless the rookie had a friend who was a veteran. I was in the veteran locker room. It was very small and all of my teammates smoked like fish! [As a foreign player] you can feel isolated sometimes, and you have to learn how to live with it. I didn’t speak the language very well at all. Also, I was by myself. Louis Medina got hurt his first year, so I didn’t have a teammate. Robinson Checo, a young Latin kid came over, but he didn’t know any English. They called me in to interpret for him, but I didn’t know Spanish! So, I went in and said, “Que pasa?” That’s about all I knew.  There were a lot of really quirky things like that that happened over there.

    After I stopped playing, I managed in the Minor Leagues. As a AAA manager in Buffalo, we had some good teams. In 2004 we won a championship and in 2005, we had another good team, but we ended up losing in the playoffs. A good friend of mine, Erik Schullstrom was a scout for Hiroshima, and he said, “How would you feel about managing for the Carp?” I said, “Oh, man, that that would be a great opportunity. I’d love to do that.” He went back and introduced the idea to the owner (I had played for his father). He came to Charlotte, and we had an interview, and they said “Yeah, let’s do this.” That’s kind of how it went down. It was a little difficult at first.

    I think I was kind of a stopgap until they got a Japanese manager in there after I was gone. I don’t think it was ever intended for me to win as a manager. I think in their mind they just wanted to try to get somebody else ready and then when they were ready, they could go ahead and kick me loose, which that was fine with me. Didn’t have a problem with that. It was what it was. I thought we did a lot of really good things and I enjoyed my time there as a manager and a player.

    Koji Yamamoto was my manger when I played for the Carp and also managed just before I was hired in 2006. Yamamoto is just a super guy. The two nicest people I was around in baseball would be Sadaharu Oh, who I managed against, and Yamamoto-san. He really wanted me to help [the Carp], and he was very positive about me coming over there. That was pretty cool. As an American managing in Japan, some guys get paranoid because they think somebody’s going to do something to sabotage [the changes] they’re trying to get through. I didn’t have that. Some of my coaching staff were former teammates of mine and they wanted to see change. The Carp hadn’t won in a while and so they wanted to see an American way of doing things and then get back to Japanese style at some point refreshed.

    The way Yamamoto would work the bullpen, it was about complete games. For example, he would leave Hiroki Kuroda in to complete a game because Kuroda at 60% was better than everybody else in the bullpen. Yamamoto-san wouldn’t even go down and ask Kuroda if he was okay. He would just leave him in there. And Kuroda wasn’t going to say anything. He just kept doing it. I got to manage Kuroda for a while, and said, “Would you rather go through and face these guys, the meat of the order, for the fourth time in the ninth inning when you’re dead tired, or would you rather hand it over to the bullpen when you’ve done your job for that day with a certain amount of pitches? That keeps you healthier.”  We even tried him on four days rest. We didn’t really have to, but we tried it just because he wanted to show people in the States that he could do it. And he did okay. He was just not used to it. He was used to pitching every Sunday. That’s another thing that’s different over there, the rotation and how they worked it. Star players were always going to pitch on Sunday, and they announced their pitchers. There were never any flip flops or any of that. As a manager I didn’t understand that. The ownership was like, “Well, [the fans] want to know when they’re going to pitch.” And I said, “Well, they will come [to the ballpark] anyway.” We went through this one time, when Kuroda, pitching on short rest, pitched on a Saturday. It’s just a different mindset. I did it a little more of the American way when I was there, but I [ultimately] did what the owner wanted to do. It was his team.

    When I played, [most Japanese pitchers threw a] four-seamed fastball and a slider, sometimes a breaking ball like a curveball, and some guys would throw a change up. That’s kind of how everything was when I was a player, but as I started to manage, it was different. The players wanted to experiment with the split finger. They wanted to take their repertoire up a notch.  Kenta Maeda, Masahiro Tanaka, Hisashi Iwakuma, and Kuroda, I managed all those guys, were the top line pitchers in Japan, and they always wanted to experiment with new pitches. That was really never brought up back when I was playing. So, it was good to see how it evolved like that. I think it was good for them and a lot of those players were motivated to get to the States and play. All four of those guys did.

    Takahiro Arai was one of my favorite players in Hiroshima. The year before I managed, Arai had won a home run title. The first year I managed, Jeff Livesey was the head coach. Jeff had just showed up to spring camp at Nichinan, so we dressed up one of our interns in Arai’s uniform. He was really skinny, and Arai was a big guy. We got it all set up and I told Jeff, “This guy is the home run king, and he wants to take batting practice strictly for you because you’re going to be the hitting coach and you haven’t seen him hit.” Jeff saw the intern and he went, “Man, he’s not a real big guy, is he?” I just said, “No, no, he’s not that big.” The intern got in there and he swung at the first three pitches and missed them. He was slamming his bat and doing stuff that the Japanese players just wouldn’t do. He was great. He was a good actor. Finally, he popped one up and he pretended like it was going to be a home run but it didn’t get out of the infield. Jeff [was looking worried]. Finally, Arai came out and introduced himself, and then Jeff realized that the guys have tricked him. That was a really funny moment. We tried to lighten things up because Japanese don’t normally do stuff like that. We tried to have a lot of fun, but we worked really hard too.

    I named some co-captains the first year when I was manager. I named Tomonori Maeda and Hiroki Kuroda captains because they didn’t get along. Maeda didn’t really want to do any of that. Whereas Kuroda took charge, and he would say, “Hey, we need to do this” and would come into my office and talk to me about stuff. Those two guys really were good. Maeda and I were actually teammates when I played. He was an outstanding center fielder. He could play. When he was only 17 years old, 18 years old, he was a stud. He had all five tools. He could run, could throw, could hit, could hit for power. He was really a top tier player, but he didn’t say anything because he was a young player. He wouldn’t say anything out of the ordinary to ruffle any feathers back then. When he was young, he was an MLB caliber player. If he went over [to the States], he would have had to get adjusted, and that would be the only fear I would have had, that he couldn’t adjust to the American type of playing. He had to do things his own way and that didn’t fly in the United States back then like it does today. He could still play at times [when I managed him], but he couldn’t play in the field anymore. He got to the point where he was kind of just a pinch hitter. The Hiroshima people loved him. He was a mainstay there.

    Tomoaki Kanemoto was also a teammate of mine and then I managed against him. When Kanemoto became free agent after the 2002 season, the front office had to make a decision between resigning Maeda or Kanemoto. That was a difficult thing. The owner chose Maeda, whereas Kanemoto went on to be the next Cal Ripken with Hanshin. A lot of people really wanted to see Kanemoto stay. I would have loved to have had him on my team because he was a good friend of mine. He had tools and he was strong. You could see that he was going to be a good player.

    Having a small budget has always been a challenge for Hiroshima. I played for Kohei Matsuda, the father of the current owner, before he passed. He would go out and get a player if he thought a foreign player could help them win.  He wouldn’t care about spending money to get him. It whereas the ownership now is more constrained. So, I never had the opportunity to pick out an American player when I was the manager. You might think that was kind of weird. I had some good players, but we didn’t get that frontline American player that I thought would take us over the top.

    I never managed at the Major League level in the United States. I spent a lot of time in AAA and AAA is more of a development type situation. I always showed up every day to win but I never sacrificed development for winning. If we weren’t winning, I was not going to take the number one, two, or three prospect out of the game. I might give him a day off, but I was not going to take him out of the lineup. I think that’s just an understanding of everybody who is in development in the United States. That’s what they truly believe. Development was a big thing for me, and I knew we had to do that in Hiroshima as well. I just had to figure out a different way to do it. So it was different in that respect. I think the players did have a bit of a challenge, me being American and wanting to do things a little bit differently at times, but I didn’t do it all the time. I tried to make adjustments.

    For example, in Japan all of the teams take infield [practice] the same way. They never vary from that, and they take infield every day. Very seldom at the Major League level do teams take infield anymore. If guys want to get in some early work and take some ground balls, or maybe some fly balls if they are an outfielder, they’ll get those in before practice even starts. Even as a Minor League manager I didn’t have my guys take infield every day, but I had them do it often because they were developing. I tried to introduce American-style infield drills to the Carp. We an American style infield [drill] one day and then we would go back and do the Japanese style infield. They didn’t like the American infield. It wasn’t the same. But they could do it and never miss a ball. It was pretty amazing how they could do it, but they just liked it their way. I just finally gave up and said, “Yeah, let’s do it your way. You guys look clean with it.”

    When I started, the team was not in good working condition. They had walked over 500 people the year before I got there, and when you play in a little stadium, like Hiroshima, that makes things very difficult. You can’t walk that many. It leads to giving up three-run homers every other inning. That was their demise. But we got them back on track by making sure we pitched ahead in the count. We cut our walks down to just under 400. When our pitchers had a 2-2 or 3-2 count, they were always looking for a swing and a miss, but we really didn’t have strikeout type pitchers. We had contact type guys, but they didn’t really understand that. They thought they needed a swing and miss to not give up a hit, and that wasn’t the case. Working on that improved us tremendously during the first year when I started managing.

    I also wanted to get rid of the hogwash. Like we would practice for six hours a day, finish up, and guys would be dead tired, and somebody would tell them that they needed to go to the parking lot and keep swinging the bat for another hour. I thought that was a waste of time. Get your rest, get something good to eat, and get ready to work hard the next day. So, I started taking them to the pool and making them swing a bat in the pool after they got done with practice. Some guys liked that, some guys didn’t. The point was they were not getting anything out of sitting in the parking lot, smoking cigarettes and swinging a bat. That was not really what we needed. If you’re going to do something, do it with purpose. I think I brought some of that to the table. It wasn’t as though I was trying to change everything. I just didn’t understand how come there wasn’t any change. But when it came down to it, it was a Japanese team and I was an American manager so I would just try to introduce ideas.

    Some of the Japanese managers would do things that you would never see in the U.S. For example, one of the Dragons better hitters was a two-hole hitter. When he would get on base with one out, the Dragons manager Hiromitsu Ochiai would bunt his three-hole hitter and then let the four-hole hitter come up with two outs. I was like “Hell, yeah, that’s perfect for us!” With two outs all we had to do was get that guy out and the inning was over, or don’t pitch to him at all, and go for the next guy. [But my pitchers would insist on pitching to him] and that four-hole hitter would get a hit. It never failed. I would ask my pitchers, “Why are you doing that?”  It was almost like an unwritten rule that they couldn’t put him on and couldn’t pitch around him. They had to make him swing at their pitch and get him out. That was very discouraging to me. Ochiai just kept doing it. I was like, “God Dang it. What are you doing here?” It was so different.  

    The way they would line up defensively was also different from in the U.S. You would see a third baseman playing even with the bag, right next to the bag, and there would be nobody out with a leadoff hitter up or the seven or eight-hole hitter up. Why would you do that? [Well] they were actually looking for a ball to be hit off the end of the bat. They just wanted to cover everything. But you have got to give something up to get something. You want to double play ball? Then, you have to cheat and get to double-play depth. That’s just the way we treat the game over here. To them, it’s not an option. They were going to cover every possibility. If there was a swinging bunt, they were going to cover it.

    They would try to take away a double by staying on the line but that would leave a huge gap on the left side of the infield. I was like, “Guys were kind of kicking ourselves in the throat here. What are we doing?” A few little things like that I would change around, but it was very difficult to get them to understand it, especially the veteran players. They had a way to position that they were used to. They would want to play at a certain place on the field, and I’d be like, “Well, that doesn’t make sense. You’re giving up too much.” That was a little frustrating, but I got through it. It was not a big deal.

    Here’s one thing that I had never seen happen before [I went to Japan]. When I managed, there were some players who if they had a few bad outings or maybe they weren’t hitting really great would come into my office and say, “Hey, think I need to go down to the minor leagues for ten days and then I’ll come back.” They might not pick up a ball [down there] but when they came back, they were just kind of regrouped and refreshed and they went out and did what they used to do. That’s way different from what we do in the States. I never imagined that that would happen.

    My closer did that to me one time. He had already blown two saves, and he blew another lead, but we ended up coming back to win the game. He came into my office and said, “I think I need to go to the minor leagues.” And I said, “Do you want me to tell the media, or do you want to tell them? He said, “I’d rather you tell them.” So, he threw me under the bus. I told management about it, and they didn’t think anything about it. They were just fine with it. They said, “He’s not been very good. Maybe he needs a little rest.” So, I think it was probably normal for a Japanese player to do that if he’s had some failure. Can you imagine somebody doing that here? I was blown away.

    Overall, I got along great with the umpires in Japan, but we all have situations in which you get heated on the field and if you don’t then something’s wrong. [As a manager] you’ve got to show your team and your players that you are willing to fight for them and it’s us against them. And if they’re not going to make a proper call, then you have a right to say what you need to say. There was a particular umpire, I won’t mention his name, who had trouble seeing. He’d make a really bad call, and I’d ask him in so many words, “Are you ***ing blind!?” And he would look at me and, I almost felt sorry for him, say, “Yeah, I can’t see very well.”  I was like, what the hell? I’ve never had an umpire say that before!

    I would go to the umpiring group and ask them the rulings on something or what they saw in a certain situation. I got along with them fine. I would go over and talk to the guys who had thrown me out of games. It was no big deal. Japanese managers didn’t really do that. They would go out and bump them and hit them, and then they would stay in the game, whereas I would just talk to them and get thrown out. I think my interpreter got me into more trouble than what I really did. He would get fired up more than I would, and he’d say stuff and it looked like I was saying it, and I wasn’t really saying it!

    [Editor’s note: Marty became famous throughout Japan on May 7, 2006, for throwing first base during a dispute with the umpires].

    Well, I had an American pitcher, Mike Romano, on the mound and there was a close play at first base and the umpire called the runner safe. He was one of my favorite umpires over there. His name was Katsumi Manabe. I didn’t know if he was safe or not, it was a tough call. Manabe didn’t know English that well, and I think Mike said, “Well, that was a fucking horseshit call!” Well, Manabe thought that Mike was calling him that. It was just the third inning and Manabe threw my starter out of the game. I went out there, and I’m like, “Oh, God, I’ve got to waste some time here so we can get somebody warmed up enough to get them in the game.” So, I started arguing with the umpires, and as I was arguing with the umpires, I noticed they all had stopwatches. I didn’t know what the hell they had those stopwatches for. Anyway, I was talking, and I was getting heated up, but I still was going to have to waste some more time because we were not going to have anybody ready soon.

    Finally, the umps said, “That’s enough. You need to go back to the dugout.” I was like, “What?” And they said, “Yeah, your time is up. You can’t go over the amount of time to argue this call.” So, I was like, “Oh, you’re not going to throw me out after all the hell I put you through here?”  They just looked at me, and said, “You’re done.” And they started walking away. I had to figure out a way to waste more time, so I just picked up first base and threw it out into right field. All four of them threw me out at once! All four! That was the first time that had ever happened.

    The Carp’s owner made red T-shirts that said, “Danger! My manager throws bases.” He put that out there and they sold them as souvenirs. Pretty good marketing idea. That didn’t bother me any. What did bother me is that first time I got tossed, they finned me 1000 bucks. And the next time I got tossed, it was going to be 2000. My coaching staff thought it was great when I got tossed and the team really liked it. It showed some energy because none of the other Japanese managers really did that. I went to the coaching staff, and I said, “Listen, I can’t do this anymore.” So the coaching staff got together and they paid my fine. I thought that was pretty amazing. They didn’t say anything to the players. The coaches leaked it out that I didn’t feel that I could get tossed because management was not going to help pay the fines. Well, management ended up coming back and said, “If we feel that it’s a worthy cause and you can get tossed, we’ll pay your fine.”

    With the history of the city, and the bombing, the culture of Hiroshima is about rebuilding and fighting. “We’re not giving up!” I think that really stands out in Hiroshima and with the fans there. The fans make trips to Tokyo, and they have their own cheering section. They’re just great. If I had to compare them to a team in the States as far as fan base, I’d say the Cardinals. The reason I say that is the Cardinals do very little during the course of the winter to get better, but it always seems to work out because their fan base is behind them all the time and a lot of guys just need that little extra jump. So yeah, Hiroshima is just a special place. I think it’s more about the people there. I think the rebuilding of the team and putting the money back into the team now has really helped them as far as competing in the league. Hiroshima’s new stadium is off the wall great. It’s awesome. Nippon Ham’s new stadium is also really good. With Japan’s culture, loving baseball the way they do, making all these new stadiums and places for the fans to go has been pretty amazing.

    My time in Japan was a really enjoyable experience, both as a manager and as a player. I really did love it. Also, I met my wife there, so I brought the best part of Japan home with me!

     

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  • Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the Hiroshima Carp’s First Pennant: Gail Hopkins Remembers the Clincher

    Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the Hiroshima Carp’s First Pennant: Gail Hopkins Remembers the Clincher

    On October 15, 1975, the Hiroshima Toyo Carp arrived in Tokyo to play the Yomiuri Giants needing a win to clinch the Central League pennant. In the Carp’s 25-year history, they had never finished above third place. 

    Carp first baseman Gail Hopkins remembers:  

    There was obviously a lot of pressure on us, and the guys were starting to feel it. Wally Yonamine’s team, the Chunichi Dragons, had been even with us in the standings but we went up a game on them. We were at the point where we controlled our own destiny. If we won, we would win the pennant. If we didn’t win, then we had to play the next day and we’d still have to win that game and it would also depend on what happened with Chunichi, which was off in another place playing while we were playing in Tokyo.

    The stands were packed. The stadium was full with 50,000 fans. That stadium was always full even though the Giants were 27 games behind us. They drew 3.05 million people that year. About 15,000 to 20,000 people came to the game from Hiroshima They had these rice spoons from Miyajima, which is an island right near Hiroshima. When something went well for us, our fans would smack these spoons together. So, there was this incessant clicking of the spoons going on during the game.

    Pitching for us was Yoshiro Sotokoba and he was really throwing the ball very well.  The pitcher they had throwing against us was a left-hander named Hisao Niura and he was a big guy, about six feet, and he threw pretty hard. He had pretty good stuff and he was pitching very well that night, so we didn’t have a whole lot of chances.

    Yoshiro Sotokoba

    We scored the first run in the fifth inning. Our catcher, Hiroyuki Michihara, came to bat and he hit a ground ball down the third baseline. Davey Johnson was playing third base for the Giants, and he had to move toward the line. When he went to make the play, the ball hit off his glove and he obscured the baseline from the umpire. The umpire called the ball fair, and it was, but there was a big argument between the Giants manager Shigeo Nagashima and the umpire. Nagashima said it was a foul ball and put on a show. It was his first year as a manager and he was terrible. I mean he was truly terrible as a manager. But anyway, the ball was fair, and then our catcher was sacrificed to second. Then Tsuyoshi Oshita hit the ball off the wall and their left fielder could get there in time and Michihara scored to make it 1-0. 

    When the game started, we had a lot of fans supposing us, but most of the people there, at least half of the people or more, were Giants fans and were cheering for the Giants. As the game went along, it was getting more and more exciting and the fans were clearly engaged. There was also a change in the way the fans were cheering. We seemed to gain support.

    In the sixth inning, the Giants had two runners on with one out and Sadaharu Oh coming up, so we walked Oh to load the bases. The next batter was a right-handed big outfielder named Toshimitsu Suetsugu. He was a formidable player. He hit a ground ball to Oshita at second base who turned it to shortstop Toshiyuki Mimura and Mimura threw it to me to turn the double play to get out of the inning. That was the biggest risk for us in the game. Had we not made that play at least one or two runs might have scored. 

    Tsuyoshi Oshita

    In the ninth inning, things were really pretty tight. The guys on the bench were getting kind of anxious. We had made a pitching change in the eighth inning and brought in Motoyasu Kaneshiro. He had won 20 games the year before, but he got into a car wreck and he didn’t play for a while, so Joe Lutz converted him from a starter into a relief pitcher. He was kind of a submarine pitcher—he wasn’t way down underneath but he was below sidearm, and he threw the ball pretty hard. Well, he led off the ninth inning and checked his swing on a pitch and hit a blooper into right center that dropped for a single. The next batter was Oshita, and Oshita put down one of the best bunts I’ve ever seen. Oshita could run fairly well, and he laid a bunt down the first baseline just like you’re supposed to do. The ball was about three feet off the line and by the time the pitcher and the first baseman got to the ball, Oshita was by them and it was a base hit.

    So, with one out and runners on first and second in the ninth inning, they changed pitchers. They brought in this left-hander Kazumi Takahashi. He was their leading left-hand relief pitcher. Mimura came up and Takahashi struck out Mimura on really good pitch.

    When I came up, my goal was to try to hit the ball hard somewhere and drive a run in. I wasn’t thinking about anything else. My style of hitting in 1975 was different than I did in the States. In the States, I had a wide stance and basically hit the ball where it was pitched. In Japan, I tried to pull everything. The first pitch he threw was a breaking ball away for a ball. For the second pitch, I was guessing fastball and if I didn’t get it, I would take it. He threw a breaking ball, so I took it for the first strike. Then he threw a fastball, and I checked my swing and it hit my bat for a foul. That really irritated me because it put me in the hole with the pitch count. At this point, my goal was just to put the ball in play. He came back and threw another breaking ball in the dirt. 

    The Carp fans were clapping the rice spoons together and those things made a lot of noise! Then, Takahashi threw another breaking ball in the dirt [making it a full count]. Now, I knew that he had to throw a strike because if he didn’t, he was going to have to face Koji Yamamoto with the bases loaded. If I wanted a pitch to hit hard, it would be just like his next pitch, inside and around thigh high. And that was it.  As they say, “Sayonara Aka-chan!” Of course, that was the ball game right there. When it’s 1-0, the worst hitter on their club could tie the game [with one swing] but now they had to come back and score three.

    I, of course, was elated when I hit the ball out. I wasn’t thinking about that because at that point my goal was to make solid contact and just to drive in a run, but he put the ball right there in my wheelhouse. I didn’t over swing and it went all the way to the back of the stadium. It made the tension level in the dugout relax because we had pretty good bullpen and Kaneshiro was really doing well so we were in good shape. 

    Gail Hopkins celebrates after hitting the 3-run homer

    The clubhouses were different [in Japan] from what we have here. We have big clubhouses, where you can get sandwiches and you’ve got all your personal stuff. There, the clubhouses weren’t big. They weren’t sophisticated. They didn’t have a place where you could sit down and have beer when the game was over. The visiting teams would even get dressed in their hotels! So, we didn’t have a big celebration after we clinched, like they do here with champagne or beer. We just went back home to Hiroshima on the train the next day and then we had a big parade.

  • Interview with Takeshi Koba

    Interview with Takeshi Koba

    In October 2003, I had the pleasure of interviewing former Carp manager Takeshi Koba before an oldtimers’ game at Tokyo Dome. Koba played for the Carp from 1958 to 1969 but is more famous for managing Hiroshima during their famous Akaheru (Red Helmet) era. From 1975 to 1985 Koba led the Carp to ten winning seasons and three Japan Series championships. He was elected to the Japan hall of fame in 1999.

    How does one become a manger in Japanese baseball? You ask the owner. There are many younger managers nowadays who have no coaching experience and of course no managing experience and yet they are able to become managers. I think that it’s different from the system in the United States. In Japan if you play and you become famous then you can become a manager.

    In my first year as a manager, I was able to win the league championship. But you never know how many years you can actually be a manager. If you don’t get results, the fans aren’t happy, and the team nudges you to quit. So, what do you do? You have to play ball, you have to make sure that people who come to watch enjoy themselves, and also you have to win. So, you have to make sure that the players get together as one and work towards winning. My job as the manager was to make sure that the team was together on that. And when you eventually get fired, my goal was to not have regrets.

    When you take over a team and you have no good pitchers and the defense is bad and you really have to start from scratch then it takes quite a long time to build a winning team, but usually there are only certain sections or certain players who need improvement. It was my job as a manager to reach out to those players and together with the coaches to nurture them in certain directions or in certain ways. Every year I would have to figure out who those players were and pick them out. There are only nine positions in baseball and not including the pitcher, eight positions. I always said that I wanted six or seven position players to be there until the end of the game.

    When I became the manager, we had on our team Koji Yamamoto and Sachio Kinugasa. These were special players. They were recognized by all of the other ballplayers as stars, and they were why we were able to win the 1975 championship. They became role models for the younger players throughout the year. All I needed to say to the young players was, “If you want to catch up to Yamamoto and Kinugasa, if you want to exceed these two, you have to practice harder.” That’s all that was required.

    I was also really very lucky with my two foreign players. Gail Hopkins and Richie Scheinblum could hit and play defense. They were all-round players. I could count on them from the beginning of the game to the end of the game. So, it made managing very easy. When U.S. players come to Japan, there are coming here after really working very hard in the American Minor and Major Leagues. As a manager I asked Jim Lefebvre to scout some players for us. I asked him for players who could adjust to the style here in Japan. Lefebvre said that it really depended on the wife. If the wife can be interested in coming to Japan, if the wife agrees and enjoys the experience then that’s very important. So, I asked for such players.

    When I was a manager, I think that I did everything I wanted to do and I put my whole self into it. I gave it my best. There are many people who say that I am a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde—that I have a dual personality because outside of the field I’m very quiet and I don’t say much and don’t complain but once I’m on the field my eyes change, and I become very severe. There are some players who say that I hit them! I never hit anybody, but I put my all into it, and I made sure that the players understood that I’m putting my all into it because that’s an important part of creating a winning team.

    I always told my players from the very beginning of the season that if they had complaints or there was something about the team or the way I was managing that they didn’t like that they could talk to me at any time. And if I could, I would solve that problem to the best of my abilities. Throughout the season, I thought if I could do that it would be best. I didn’t want to be at the end of the season with a player not doing his best and not performing well for the team. I wanted to avoid that kind of situation as it made everyone dissatisfied.

    As a manager, I talked with my coaches, I talked with my staff, and I told them throughout the year that I was confident that I would do my best for the team but if during practice you find something that we need to do more or if another team was doing something that was better then tell me about it. I was proud of what I was doing but I might not have been doing it the best way so if there was something else that’s better, I wanted them to tell me about it. One thing that I think I succeeded in doing well was to create good switch hitters. For example, there were pitchers who the scouts brought to the team but we decided that they weren’t very good as pitchers so we decided to use them as outfielders. If they had the necessary legs and powerful bodies, I would tell them, “Why don’t you work hard and try to become a switch hitter?” Many of my athletes succeed in becoming very good switch hitters. With a group of good switch hitters we were able to create a good team. I think that is why we were able to compete for the league championship for many years.

    When I was playing with a company team, one day I had injured my right finger and I came to the field in street clothes, carrying my right arm, obviously in pain. My manger was very angry with me. He said, “Go back in and put your uniform on!” After I put my uniform on again, he told me to stand in the batter’s box and he threw balls right at me. I was scared so I put my bat in front of me with my left hand because my right was injured. Somehow the ball was hitting the bat that I held with my left hand and my manger yelled, “See you can do it! If you work for one week, you can develop your left arm so you can hit with your left arm.” As you can see, my body is not very big. He said, “If you take time off, your body is going to be less developed so you can’t take any time off. You have to always be in there and keep playing.” That was an important lesson.

     

    1975-76 Calbee Baseball Card of Takeshi Koba

    [Editor’s note: In 1963, Koba’s sixth year of professional ball, Koba was in contention for the Central League batting title when he was hit in the face with a pitch and hospitalized.]

    The injury definitely influence how I played afterwards, maybe it was just a matter of several millimeters but I was no longer able to hit the ball on the meat of the bat so my contact became weaker and therefore I didn’t have as many hits. My average went from .339 to .219 the next year. So, I asked myself how else can I contribute to the game? And I thought, I can use my legs. So, I started stealing bases and I led the league in stolen bases the following year. That’s what I told my athletes, “Ask yourself, how you can contribute to the game.”

    When I was a manager, I always went to see the instructional league in Florida and we sent our young players there to participate. After the regular season here, I would go over and watch these young American players train and they would be working very hard. Most of them were from A or AA and were hoping to make it up to the AAA or Major League level. I took my young players with me because I wanted them to see what kind of severe reality, what kinds of conditions, the U.S. Minor Leaguers were playing in. U.S. players were given only $12 or $13 per day to participate in this. And if they didn’t perform well, they were put back down into the lower-level teams. I wanted the Carp players to understand this. I think that because the Carp players were actually able to see it for themselves, they were stimulated to improve more.

    I was the manager of both Hiroshima and Yokohama. I was the manager of Hiroshima for eleven years. Managers of the other teams would say, “Hey, why are you practicing so hard?” Even when we were on the road before away games, I would always make sure that there were opportunities to practice just as hard. I think that the major difference between American and Japanese baseball, is that in America there is a Rookie League, A, AA, AAA, a whole system where the athletes who come up from the bottom can improve and move up to the next level. But in Japan, there is only the major club and the farm team. So, there are always about ten people, or more, in the farm who don’t quite have the bodies yet, don’t have the techniques yet to play in the major league. If you are always playing in the games you can gain the experience you need but if you aren’t in the games, you have to practice that much harder so that when it’s your turn to play in the games you can play well. If you don’t practice very hard, you can not surpass the other players and get into the major league. The other teams said, “Oh you practice so hard, you must always be tired.” But the tradition of hard practices still continues on the Hiroshima team today. I think because we had such hard practices the younger athletes grew and developed and matured.